I don’t know if you saw the news, but actor Jay Thomas passed away yesterday in Santa Barbara.
You may remember Jay for his regular role as Reno DaVinci on Mork & Mindy. Or for his regular role as Eddie LeBec, Carla’s ice hockey playing husband, on Cheers. Or for his ongoing role as Jerry Gold on Murphy Brown. Or as his starring role as Jack Stein in Love & War. He was also a long-time very successful morning DJ in Los Angeles and New York and more recently on Sirius XM.
But I remember Jay as the star of two series of commercials I wrote — one for El Pollo Loco (a California-based chain of Mexican chicken restaurants) and the other for Santa Anita Thoroughbred Racing.
A couple stories worth telling about my experiences with Jay:
When we conceived the El Pollo Loco television and radio ad campaign, we asked the casting director to bring us voices with personality. We wanted an announcer who brought a little something extra to the campaign. Probably a hundred different voiceover actors “read” for the campaign — meaning they tried out by recording a script we had written. The casting director then put all those recordings together on a cassette and my partner and I sat down and listened to all of them.
There may be more tedious chores in advertising than listening to 100 voiceover guys read the same script over and over and over again, but I cannot at this moment imagine what they may be.
After a while all the voices began to sound the same. One hundred different, but similar voices reading the same words, but trying hard to add their interpretation of “personality” to the script. We were beginning to give up hope of finding the actor we wanted when the casting director said, “OK, now this next one is a little different. It’s not what you’re expecting. Do you know who Jay Thomas is?”
Of course we did. Jay had for several years been a very funny, caustic, quick-witted and highly-rated morning DJ in Los Angeles. My business partner and I had serious doubts that this guy could possibly give us the “read” that we wanted.
But we listened. And we were blown away. We both laughed out loud because Jay’s audition, the personality he brought to the campaign, was pure Jay. It wasn’t what we thought we were looking for, but it was different and it was great. Really great.
So Jay Thomas became the voice of El Pollo Loco.
Which brings us to the next two stories.
Having this unique personality as the voice of El Pollo Loco meant I had to write scripts that were far different than anything I’d ever written for McDonald’s or Burger King or Pizza Hut. They had to be written with Jay’s unique personality in mind.
Jamie claims the funniest line I’ve ever written was in an El Pollo Loco commercial. The company’s roasted chicken was far healthier than the greasy, fatty fare offered by KFC, its main competitor. So I wrote a commercial called “Secret Blend” that started with Jay saying:
“I just ate lunch at that place that cooks its chicken in a secret blend of herbs and spices. But I have a question: Is grease an herb or a spice?”
Yeah, that’s a pretty funny line, if I do say so myself.
Recording sessions are often long, tedious affairs in which the voiceover talent reads the same script over and over again while the ad agency writer/director tries to direct him/her into giving it exactly the performance that was in the writer’s head when the script was written. It’s not unusual to do dozens of takes and re-takes and to require lots of editing to make it come out the way you hear it on the radio.
But when Jay did an El Pollo Loco recording session, he usually nailed it in two or three takes. He’d be in and out of the studio in ten minutes. He could read a script exactly like I heard it in my head when I wrote it and he always brought a 60-second script in at exactly 60-seconds. Not fifty nine and a half, not sixty and a half. Sixty seconds exactly.
After our first recording session, I complimented Jay on how he had managed to get it so right so quickly.
“It was easy,” he said. “Whoever wrote these scripts really understands me and has nailed my personality perfectly.”
That’s one of the nicest compliments I ever received in my advertising career.
Another Jay Thomas/El Pollo Loco story:
The company wanted a commercial advertising a 12-piece chicken offer that they had named “The Really Big Deal.” I wrote the commercial, and although I don’t recall the exact copy, it said something about someone who was “hungrier than a lumberjack who’s been Dancing to the Oldies with Richard Simmons.”
The client’s Advertising Manager was appalled. “We can’t mention Dancing to the Oldies or Richard Simmons,” he insisted. “He’ll sue us.” So I was forced to change the copy to read “hungrier than a lumberjack who’s been dancing to that old music with that crazy exercise guy.” Clearly a much weaker line, but the lawsuit shy client refused to budge.
We got to the recording session and Jay read the copy but stopped when he got to that line.
“Wouldn’t this line be funnier if we changed it to, “…Dancing to the Oldies with Richard Simmons?”
“That’s the way it was originally written,” I said. “But the client is afraid they’ll get sued by Richard Simmons.”
That’s when Jay said one of the most surprising things I’d ever heard.
“Well, then you hired the right voiceover guy. Richard Simmons and I were best friends growing up in New Orleans. He’ll never sue because he’ll think it’s funny that I’m the one saying it.”
What are the odds?
We recorded it the original way. Neither Richard Simmons nor his lawyers ever called to complain, and El Pollo Loco sold a whole lot of chicken.
UPDATE: JULY 14, 2024. Richard Simmons died yesterday and while reading his obituary I noticed that he was born on July 12, 1948. I looked up Jay Thomas birthday and discovered that it was also July 12, 1948. So they were not only childhood best friends, they were born on exactly the same day. Remarkable.
Now let’s move forward a few years.
I was working on a television campaign for Santa Anita Thoroughbred Racing and wrote a series of funny TV scripts that featured a knowledgable male horse race fan explaining the sport to a ditzy woman. I wrote them with Jay Thomas in mind.
Unbeknownst to any of us, he was a horse racing fanatic. He loved to bet on the ponies. So he was thrilled to find out we were going to shoot the commercials at Santa Anita on an actual race day so we could capture the roar of the crowd and images of the horses breaking out of the starting gate.
I said earlier that recording a radio commercial often takes dozens of takes, but TV commercials can be even worse because there are so many more variables when you add a video component. So each shooting day requires a much larger crew, many different takes and many different set-ups for each different shot that is required.
Every time we had a short break, Jay would disappear. It got to the point that it was delaying the production, so the producer finally took him aside and asked where he was going between shots.
“Every time we take a break I run over and place a bet on the next race,” he said. “And I’m having a pretty good day because I just won $1200.”
When we broke for lunch, Jay announced that he would join us as soon as he cashed in his $1200 winning ticket.
We finished lunch, but Jay didn’t return. We waited and waited and then waited some more, but he was still missing in action. We sent people out to find him but they came back empty-handed. The clock was ticking and we were beyond the time allotted time for lunch in the production schedule and the star of our commercials was nowhere to be found.
Panic was beginning to set in when the door suddenly burst open and Jay sauntered into the room with a huge smile on his face.
“Sorry for the delay,” he said, “but my math was a little off. I didn’t win $1200, I won $12,000 and when you win that much they make you go to a special office and fill out a bunch of paperwork for the IRS before they’ll give you the money.”
We all laughed and congratulated him on his good luck, but told him he had to stop making bets or we’d never get the commercials completed before the sun went down.
“OK,” he said, “I’ll make you a deal. I promise not to make any more bets if you’ll promise not to tell my agent I won this much money while I was working because he’s gonna want his 10%.”
That was classic Jay Thomas.
He was one of a kind and the world will miss him. But I know that wherever he is right now, everyone around him is laughing.
Jerry says
Great story Jim! I remember Jay Thomas very well starting from his Mork and Mindy and Cheers days but I didn’t know he what the voice for El Pollo Loco! And, of course, I didn’t know you had written a lot of their ads. His slightly dark, off the wall humor always appealed to me, I am the same way.
Scott Segraves says
Jim & Jamie, “Is grease an herb or a spice?” blew up nice nap for my owner-cat, snoozing on right edge of this keyboard. I’m sharing your whole Jay Thomas piece with bunch of radio guys who swapped Jay stories when he passed. Mine, tepid as it is: I was Program Director at WRNO/NOLA — a short tower/low power FM in a rickety old house in a neighborhood next to a shipyard on the city’s westbank. Sucker often couldn’t be heard at the airport, way out the other way on I-10. Anyway, I got a call from local multi-line record distributor’s promo man asking me to talk to this crazy guy his boss knew, who was from the city and had just “left” Big WAYS in Charlotte, legendary both for its success and for the quirkiness of its husband/wife owner team. Knew there was no way I could offer him money that wouldn’t be a downright insult and that our anemic signal would be a waste of his incredible talent. So, he didn’t come home to The Big Sleazy, had to settle for L-A. And it was all my fault.